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It's hard to know the signs of  narcissistic abuse and complex trauma.  This is why I invited my guest, Dr. Ingrid Clayton to come on the podcast and share her personal and professional knowledge of dealing with a narcissist and recovering from complex trauma. 

Dr. Ingrid is a clinical psychologist and the author of the books; Believing Me: Healing from Narcissistic Abuse and Complex Trauma and Recovering Spirituality: Achieving Emotional Sobriety in Your Spiritual Practice. In this episode, she shares how writing her book, Believing Me, helped her to heal from complex trauma.

Dr. Ingrid also talks about the difference between trauma & complex trauma, the symptoms of complex trauma, and shares her experience growing up in an alcoholic home. Moreover, she explains what gaslighting is and how it shows up and shares tips on healing from trauma.


What You'll Discover


During this episode, you will learn about;

  • What is the difference between trauma and complex trauma 
  • Symptoms of complex trauma
  • Big trauma vs. little trauma and why Dr. Clayton doesn't care for this language
  • Her experience growing up in an alcoholic home and how she realized that she was experiencing trauma
  • What gaslighting, and self-gaslighting is
  • Ingrid’s Self-gaslighting experience
  • How Dr.Ingrid’s childhood trauma impacted her adult relationships
  • Dr. Ingrid’s life as an alcoholic
  • What is gaslighting, and how does it show up?
  • Tips on how to heal from trauma 


To connect with Dr. Clayton, please visit:






Resources Mentioned:


 Believing Me: Healing from Narcissistic Abuse and Complex Trauma by Ingrid Clayton


Recovering Spirituality: Achieving Emotional Sobriety in Your Spiritual Practice by Ingrid Clayton


The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma by Bessel van der Kolk M.D.


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