My Story: Why Committing to Sobriety Felt Impossible
The purpose of this episode is to help you if you're struggling with the idea of committing to sobriety.
I share my story and my top five reasons why sobriety felt impossible to me after 30 years of drinking, and what my commitment to alcohol looked like.
I can’t think of any other area in my life where I felt the fear of committing to something more than I did when I quit drinking.
By the end of this episode, I want you to realize that even if sobriety feels impossible and scary, it doesn’t have to stop you from breaking free from alcohol.
Committing to your well-being and peace of mind is worth it in sobriety.
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[00:00:00] In a perfect world, you wake up one morning.
[00:00:03] You accept the fact that you can no longer drink alcohol, you commit to quitting drinking forever, and you stay that way forever. For most of us, it doesn't always happen that way. It takes years, sometimes decades to come to terms with the fact that there's just no other option. We must commit to ourselves and what we want more than drinking alcohol, which is sobriety.
[00:00:25] Purpose of this episode is to help you. If you are having a hard time getting to the point of acceptance, it's time to commit to removing alcohol from my life. And my goal is to support you, to love on you, and to share my story of where I was, because I struggled with the whole forever thinking. I struggled with the impossibility of me, myself being.
[00:00:46] Somebody who is sober that was never on my vision board. Let's just say that. So by the end of this episode, I really want you to look at, even if sobriety seems impossible for you and you really shaking your boots Every time you hear the words [00:01:00] acceptance or commitment to not drinking, it doesn't have to hold you back from freeing yourself from alcohol.
[00:01:05] Today I'm going to share my top five reasons why sobriety seemed impossible to me. I want to talk about commitment. I want to talk about the fear of forever. I want to talk about the commitment to drinking. And what that looked like for me because I was fully committed to drinking and I really want you to just listen today to what I was experiencing when I first stopped drinking.
[00:01:24] If you're new to the podcast, Oh, hi, I guess I should introduce myself. I'm Lori Massicot, The Midlife Sobriety coach and founder of Team Alcohol Free. If you're turning back to the podcast. Hello, my friend. Welcome. I'm giving you a big virtual hug. Just to recap, I started drinking at 14 and 1982 ish, and I stopped drinking at 45 and 2013 and we are here today because I started this podcast in 2018 with the hope that I will reach.
[00:01:51] A couple of women who are out there, and they do not know of sobriety as the option. I really wanted to spread awareness that it is an option. I didn't know about it. And I'm [00:02:00] going to talk about that also in this episode of one of those reasons why I felt like it was so impossible.
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[00:02:23] That is not overwhelming to manage. I love working with women one on one. I have just a few spots open at a time. I really look forward to who I'm going to meet this year in 2024. So if you are somebody who are out there and you feel like, gosh, I could really use some extra support here. You can find the link to set up a free discovery session in the show notes.
[00:02:42] If you are serious about going all in. Really transitioning to removing alcohol from your life. Let's get this party started let's start with back in December right around Christmas, my family and I went to stay the night at the Hilton resort. And this is Torrey Pines, La Jolla, California.
[00:02:59] It's a beautiful [00:03:00] location, right on the Torrey Pines golf course, where the U S open is held. It overlooks the ocean. I'm hosting a three night getaway for my community team, alcohol free there in April. Excited for that. So Bill and Spence and I, my husband and son went and stayed the night.
[00:03:14] And to just check it out. It's always like, so excited because it was right in the middle of December when I do my reflection for 2023 and start planning 2024. I have my brand new lavender loestrom journal. I love it so much. And I wanted to get up in the morning. We stayed there Friday night. I had Saturday morning.
[00:03:33] I wanted to get up, be by myself, go to Starbucks, get my coffee, and just sit and watch the sunrise with my new journal and reflect on the year. So that's what I did. I got a big cozy chair overlooking the sunrise, and I have my journal.
[00:03:47] I have my coffee and I just started to write about being 10 years sober. And that happened August 11th of 2023. And wow, how grateful I was to myself for the [00:04:00] fact that I did go all in. I chose myself over alcohol. And I talked about in this reflection, cause I never know what's going to come up about like the whole act of committing and why it felt so impossible to do and why I stuck with trying to make alcohol work for, a couple of years.
[00:04:18] . And the reasons that came up, which made it seem so impossible, are what I'm sharing with you today. So I started looking at commitment and the basic definition of commitment is the state or quality of being dedicated to a cause or activity. And notice it doesn't say forever,
[00:04:35] but if you're like me and you're thinking, I'm going to commit to sobriety, that means forever. It's a real mind eff. And when I was writing this reflection, I realized I cannot think of another time in my life when I feared commitment as much as I did when I was at that point of giving up alcohol it wasn't the fear or commitment about giving up alcohol. It was the [00:05:00] fear that what I used alcohol for was going to go away forever and my life would be changed for the worse, not the better. I remember thinking when I was at that point of, gosh, do I drink or do I go alcohol free? I was standing at a crossroads for these two years that I was trying to make alcohol work and one road was making alcohol work. Either go this way. You learn how to moderate. You learn how to be a normal drinker. So you could drink forever or you go the opposite way. You go all in to being alcohol free and you just.
[00:05:31] Figure it out as you go and you learn how to live your life without alcohol, because there was no middle ground for me. There was no middle road that said, Lori, you can have this life that you dream of this life that you want while you're drinking. When I was trying to moderate, I was totally depriving myself and I didn't like it.
[00:05:49] When I chose to go all in on being alcohol free, I had that story. You're not going to be able to do this. There's no way you don't follow through. You can't commit. You're not disciplined. You don't have [00:06:00] willpower, all of it.
[00:06:00] We all have, let's say negative commitment stories and I hear them often from women I work with, I can't commit, I'm not good at commitment, I don't follow through, just like I had these stories until we realized, you know what, it's okay, we can have these stories and we can still do something that actually is going to enhance our lives instead of sticking with the same old stuff that's just taking away from our lives, we have to call BS on ourselves and RBS and RBS is our belief system. I totally believed that I couldn't commit, period. Couldn't commit to things in life and that was just BS. I committed to drinking alcohol wholeheartedly.
[00:06:40] I was all in. From that first sip, 14, I was dedicated. Me and alcohol were tight. It was a serious relationship. My commitment to alcohol looked like planning my activities around drinking alcohol. Honestly, there was great commitment there. I told myself I couldn't attend parties. [00:07:00] I couldn't attend my wedding. Oh my gosh. I drank so much before I even walked down the aisle.
[00:07:05] We were late to the wedding. I'm never late to anything. I drank at my mom's funeral. I was in the parking lot drinking. People were walking by before the service started. Because I planned everything I did except when I was pregnant around drinking alcohol. My commitment to alcohol looked like ignoring the many, many, many rock bottoms and consequences of my drinking from my teens to my early forties, there was no way I was going to accept alcohol as the reason for these consequences.
[00:07:32] I just always blamed myself because I was so in that relationship. The rituals that I had created Sundays on the couch. That was written in stone for years. No one was going to break that commitment. And if they did, I wasn't happy about it. The timing of my drinking, that was a commitment.
[00:07:49] Purchasing of alcohol. That was a commitment was at the top of my grocery list. And for two years, I was fully committed to trying to make alcohol work. I had to because I could [00:08:00] not imagine it seemed so impossible for me to give up alcohol.
[00:08:04] And one of the most powerful commitments and why it seemed so impossible, which I'm going to talk about in just a minute, was the fact that I had a very strong tie to my identity that I proclaimed for myself as a teenager, party girl.
[00:08:20] And that commitment to that party girl and upholding that image really made everything that I ever thought of about sobriety seem totally impossible. We got to look at drinking alcohol as a commitment. Let's not kid ourselves because we are not kids anymore. So if you are somebody who is feeling like that commitment story is I can't commit, period.
[00:08:43] Drinking alcohol is a commitment and it's a commitment that really knocks you down the more and more you drink as you get older. We all know it. That's why we're here. It makes you feel bad about yourself, keeps you up at night. It makes you feel like you can't do certain things like the impossible things in life.
[00:08:58] You can't focus. Your mind is on [00:09:00] drinking and not drinking and you feel shameful and regretful and worried about your drinking. I mean, the list goes on. It is a real commitment. When you're in it, it's really tough to get out of it.
[00:09:10] If you don't have somebody that you're talking to, and you don't have someone who knows how you feel about your drinking, I just want to encourage you to reach out to someone. And Start a conversation, and this could be somebody that you really trust, a close friend, a family member because if you feel like you are in this place, and you feel like it is so hard for you right now, I just love you so much, and I don't want you to feel alone in this I want you to let it out.
[00:09:36] Drinking alcohol is hard. It's really hard. We look at sobriety is hard. Drinking alcohol is hard, especially for mature gals like you and me,
[00:09:44] who know in their heart and souls, they can't go on drinking. We all know this stuff. I don't need to tell you this kind of stuff. You're feeling it. And like I said, maybe you're feeling it just for a couple of years. Maybe you just started to set up to this idea of, Hey, maybe my drinking's not what I [00:10:00] think it is.
[00:10:00] Or maybe you've been feeling this way for decades. We all know. It's hard. I did a whole episode about why drinking is harder than sobriety and midlife, and I'm gonna link that in the show notes. In my experience, drinking became so hard that I had that inkling.
[00:10:15] Not drinking may be better. It's gonna be hard, but it may be better than this kind of hard. At least I wouldn't have to deal with all of the things that I didn't want in my life because of my drinking. For the purpose of this episode, I'm using the term sobriety, but I want to make sure when I stopped drinking, I wasn't accepting sobriety into my life.
[00:10:33] I wasn't calling myself sober. I wasn't looking at it as a sober journey or anything else. I was quitting drinking. It was like for a bit, I didn't exist. Because that party girl had finally left the party and I just felt like, I don't know who I am. I was 45 years old. I was in perimenopause. I don't know what I want to do with my life now.
[00:10:55] Everything seemed flat.
[00:10:57] There were definitely stages of acceptance that happened for me [00:11:00] at that first stage, August 11th, 2013. And that's the night I quit drinking. I poured two bottles of Chardonnay down the sink, crying my eyes out. I have to quit drinking. I can't do this anymore. I accepted the fact that I wanted to feel better.
[00:11:14] I accepted the fact that alcohol never made me feel better. I was really tired of feeling like I had been hit by a truck for two days after drinking. I accepted that I could not moderate because I didn't want to. And I accepted the possibility that my life. Maybe better at some point because I was no longer doing something that felt like such a fight and that's what it felt like for such a long time.
[00:11:40] I was fighting with myself repeatedly disappointing myself. I was mad at myself for going back for breaking my rules, trying to moderate and it was just taking so much time and energy away. If you're there, I just want to really encourage you to remind yourself daily that this is going to take time. I don't have to rush it. [00:12:00] I want to be more patient with myself. And actually, I want to just love myself more and be more compassionate with myself because we can continue to judge and berate and wish that we didn't do the things that we don't want to do anymore.
[00:12:13] Or we can say, you know what, you did it. You're moving forward. You're human. I love you. And it goes a long way. I want to share my top five reasons with you why sobriety seemed impossible. Number one, it would be impossible for me because I was the self identified party girl. Like I said, this is what I envisioned. To utter three words. I don't drink for the rest of my life.
[00:12:34] Heck no. That seems absolutely impossible. I can't do it. , let alone believe them. And here is why it was really impossible. No one else in my life would believe me if I said them either. That's what I got down to in this reflection. That's where I felt so awkward. My identity and this image I had created of myself.
[00:12:55] That's what I believed everybody else saw. And I had to uphold that [00:13:00] for my entire life because I can't change. That's going to make other people feel awkward. I'm going to feel awkward and it's just not possible. Imposter syndrome is real. If you have ever identified as a drinker. It is so awkward and sometimes so painful when you first stopped drinking
[00:13:18] I started to feel and see how possible it was for me to not only say I don't drink but believe that I don't drink and I don't want to drink the further I got from alcohol. This is definitely one of those things that cannot happen until you stop drinking. It's like, what comes first? Me believing that I don't need to or want to drink or me quitting drinking?
[00:13:36] Of course, it's got to be me quitting drinking, and what happens is, in all of those moments, we're just like, F it, I'm going to drink. No, I'm not. F it, I'm going to drink. No, I'm not. That was what my mind was doing all day long. In all of those moments, I was working towards being where I was more confident in saying those three words and actually believing them and actually being really proud of it because My goodness, we're [00:14:00] working towards something in life Whether we're working towards making alcohol work or we're working towards making sobriety work We are working towards something in those little effort moments And so my encouragement to you is to find the possibility in those moments as much as you can Number two, I thought sobriety was impossible because I didn't fully believe, and I definitely didn't accept that I was someone who was supposed to be sober.
[00:14:26] Sobriety is for other people, not me. I'm just a party girl. Everyone drinks, and that is what I do. That is why I was writing AF in my journal, alcohol free. I was not writing sobriety. I was not identifying as a sober woman. Stereotype I had ingrained in my brain, which most of us do, someone who is sober, is hard to accept for ourselves.
[00:14:46] I wasn't a problem drinker, I wasn't addicted to alcohol, or was I? FoR the most part, I was functioning, and I used this as a reason to not quit drinking. You hold a job, you're a good mom, [00:15:00] you're a good wife, you're a good friend, you're a good sister, you take care of your responsibilities.
[00:15:05] I was mentally and emotionally addicted to using alcohol. And the informal definition of the word addicted is enthusiastically devoted to a particular thing or activity. If we can look at it in that respect, I was very enthusiastic about drinking. When I thought about what I would drink, how much I had to drink, how much was left to drink.
[00:15:25] My BS, my belief system was alcohol is fun. I'm more fun when I drink. People are more fun. The list goes on. I've heard other people on social media, people who are in the sobriety.
[00:15:36] Community talk about the fact that, Hey, if you are a normal drinker, when you are not researching sobriety, you're not listening to sobriety podcast, you're not trying to figure out your drinking. And I don't believe that to be true for everyone. It was for me, but not for everyone, especially nowadays. And really, this is the benefit of the media talking about sobriety so openly and honestly.
[00:15:58] It's almost like it's [00:16:00] trending, but it's not, it's not trendy to be sober and to stop drinking for millions of people, it's a matter of life and death. And it's not always in the physical dying sense. It's in the heart and soul, slow dying death.
[00:16:12] Before I quit drinking, I did all the research to make sure I was not a problem drinker. I took the quizzes. I read about the characteristics. I took 30 days off twice to prove that I was not a problem drinker, that I was not addicted to alcohol. But on the night I quit drinking, I told myself that none of that mattered anymore.
[00:16:29] What mattered most is what I do going forward with the acceptance that even if I'm a problem drinker, it's okay. At least I won't add to that problem. As I get older acceptance of just that alone made it possible for me to stop drinking at lots of problems in life that weren't created because of alcohol.
[00:16:46] I used alcohol to take away those problems, which we all know creates more problems like. worrying about our drinking, like taking quizzes online and Googling till we just get the answers that we're looking for. You can keep drinking, Lori. It's [00:17:00] okay. Go ahead. And those never come.
[00:17:02] Alcohol is the problem, period. As long as alcohol is in the picture, I knew that I would not be able to manage the problems in my life head on, and I would also have the problems that were created because of my drinking.
[00:17:13] Today, I like . The saying, I have 99 problems and alcohol isn't one of them. Life is happening, whether we are drinking or not. And man, we all have problems. We think that people have this easy. If anybody ever thought that about me, let me set you down. Let's have a cup of coffee.
[00:17:29] It's not easy, but man, anything that we want to do in life and have that is sustainable, we got to do the work we got to put in the effort. And we got to get through those moments that are just so. We're not continuing to work so hard on the lives that we don't. Oh, that felt good. Number three, sobriety seemed impossible for me because I would never be able to socialize, relieve stress [00:18:00] or anxiety. I wore turtlenecks for years. And the only time that I didn't have to wear turtlenecks is when I was drinking alcohol, because I always had the nervous hives and.
[00:18:10] Boy, I would just have to wear turtlenecks for the rest of my life. That's what I thought. I will forever be boring. I will forever be in a turtleneck, and I will forever be left out, sad, awkward, resentful of other people's drinking. I'm going to be nervous 24 7. I will not enjoy vacations or weddings or concerts, all of it.
[00:18:29] That was all in my head. Gosh, seems so impossible. Life is not going to be enjoyable. Alcohol was synonymous with so many different areas in my life. What I thought I was committing to in sobriety was lack of deprivation, which I was so fearful of. Being deprived was not something I enjoyed or wanted to experience in the short term and definitely not in the long term.
[00:18:52] When I stopped drinking, I remember thinking. You're gonna have to deprive yourself now. You did this to yourself. This is your punishment. But looking [00:19:00] back now, I wasn't having fun drinking. The chaos in my life, it was getting more and more every sip I took, I was adding more chaos to my life. I wasn't really socializing or vacationing.
[00:19:10] I was on my couch drinking and feeling shitty about myself. This one is where I felt a lot of resistance to getting sober.
[00:19:17] Where I started to find the possibilities in being sober is when I started to realize that my drinking had become so impossible. Like I could never have kept up with what I was doing. There was no way. And I started to realize that going into that first year for sure.
[00:19:34] And then at my first year sober is when I said, okay, I want to go to a concert. And just so happened, my favorite band, The Counting Crows was playing here in San Diego, actually at the Del Mar races. And so we went, and I just remember thinking. This is going to be so hard and I'm not going to be able to enjoy myself.
[00:19:52] And when I left there and I wrote in my journal that night, or maybe it was the next day, it's so possible to enjoy life without alcohol. [00:20:00] I remember all of it. And that was such a great feeling. So I found the possibility there, but that was really one, the whole story about, I'm not going to be able to do the things that I once enjoyed because I don't drink because alcohol was so tightly wound into different areas of my life.
[00:20:17] That was a real. thing that was holding me back. And so if you're there, what we can do for ourselves is to move forward. Do the things that we enjoy doing while drinking to see if we really enjoy doing them. I mean, I enjoyed wine tasting. Do I wine taste now? Well, no. Spend my day wine tasting. Are you kidding me?
[00:20:35] I got other things to do. Do those things and then find new things. That you enjoy doing that don't involve what you used to do while drinking. Number four, committing to sobriety seemed impossible because I didn't know how to do it. 30 years spent drinking alcohol. That's what I knew.
[00:20:51] I was forging ahead on my own. Not a lot of people were talking about sobriety openly back in 2013. I had no idea what I was doing or committing to [00:21:00] other than not drinking, which, again, seemed like a punishment and that I was depriving myself because that's what I deserved.
[00:21:06] And that is what I focus on, not drinking. It has to be in the beginning. It really does. I mean, sobriety is a commitment. It's a commitment. My motto was, I'm going to do whatever it takes to not drink.
[00:21:17] I kept busy working, cleaning, going to the gym, anything I could do to distract myself. But I questioned, is that what I should be doing? Am I doing it right? What do I track? The number of days I don't drink? That's stressed me out. What do I do with this intense urge to drink my face off every single day, even on the days I don't normally drink or wouldn't have normally drank?
[00:21:39] This seems impossible. How do I know when I'm good? What is the sign? Somebody tell me. I mean, you had all of these impossibilities. When should I tell people that I'm not drinking and when shouldn't I tell people or who should I tell? Should I test myself and go wine tasting without drinking so I know that I can do it?
[00:21:57] I thought I should. It wasn't a good [00:22:00] experience. I did two months later after I stopped drinking. I went wine tasting. I came home and I told all I was crying. I'm never going wine tasting again. And then it was what does me not drinking look like? Where is this benchmark? When am I going to reach this outcome?
[00:22:16] And this is where we get so messed up there's no outcome here. I'm working on my sobriety every single day.
[00:22:22] There's not something that you can reach where you go. Oh, okay. You're done. You're just never done and that's hard and that's hard to face. I was looking around for, the gosh darn instruction manual for retired party girls? Go and find one. So I wrote it myself. I figured things out through my process, which included lots of tears and frustration and anger, sadness, and then also really exhilarating moments, like those shock and awe moments.
[00:22:46] Like you went to a concert and you didn't drink. That is shocking. And also I am really proud of you. That's what made it possible for me to keep going because I knew that I was enjoying life without [00:23:00] alcohol and I was able to give myself that possibility. But there was more to come and that acceptance that there was more to come.
[00:23:07] It's another one of those. What has to come first moments, me quitting drinking or me figuring out how to do life without alcohol. It had to be me quitting drinking. Last but certainly not least, number five, committing to sobriety felt impossible because I didn't feel I was worthy of having the life that I wanted, the one I fantasized about while drinking.
[00:23:28] This is a hindsight realization because I didn't feel like I was worthy of the investment it would take for me to get to the other side, the experience of having that dream life, which was really a fantasy of me being myself and confident and happy and content and free from all of my bullshit that would take.
[00:23:44] Forever. I wasn't worthy of that time investment. The time that it would take seemed impossible to fathom because I was a quick fix type of gal. If I didn't have an easy day, if I didn't see some kind of results, I was out. I wasn't worth the effort, nor were my [00:24:00] dreams.
[00:24:00] They just sounded really good and they could wait until tomorrow. Let me just drink tonight. That's how I did so much stuff in my life. This can wait until tomorrow. I'm going to get there. I had so much hope. I'm going to do this tomorrow. I'm going to do this next week. I'm going to start at the first of the year.
[00:24:14] At the end of this reflection for me, I said, geez, no wonder I thought sobriety was impossible. I had lots of things working against me, my mindset. My commitment story, my view of what sobriety was, and my lack of knowledge , the bleak outlook of deprivation and boredom and going it alone, and that commitment to alcohol and my identity as a party girl.
[00:24:36] So no wonder it seems impossible for so many women. That's what we're working up against, and you don't have to relate to really any of this, but I have a feeling because you're here, you're going to relate to at least one of these things that I said, look at where you are today, and just ask yourself, what is this story that I am telling myself, or I'm making what I want more than alcohol seem impossible, what can I [00:25:00] do for myself today to make sure that I am working towards what I really want in life versus, working really hard to make alcohol a part of my life.
[00:25:08] As Audrey Hepburn once said, nothing is impossible. The word itself says I am possible. You are possible of change.
[00:25:15] When you get to a point in your life when you accept that you are possible of changing your life, you accept that drinking isn't helping you or enhancing your life in any way, when you're tired of the back and forth and trying to follow moderation rules that you know you have no interest in, let that acceptance be enough to get you started.
[00:25:34] And with each day and each challenge and each step you take forward, you will find your answers. You will find the possibilities. And you will open your heart and your mind up to new things that are coming your way. . There are possibilities that are so outside of anything you could ever imagine happening for you. I realized when I was drinking, my wine fantasies were doused with alcohol.
[00:25:56] They weren't that vivid or challenging. It was more, I will have [00:26:00] things now at 56. My dreams are not about having, they're about being, being myself, being content, being with every emotion in the book without drinking, being free. Being at peace where I am today with a dream of having more and more better tomorrows for years to come.
[00:26:18] Sobriety is possible for you. You don't have to accept sobriety into your life to not drink today. The compound effect is daily, not forever, and the compound effect is all the small actions you take daily to stay sober. Sobriety is a commitment. It's a daily process that I will work on for the rest of my life.
[00:26:35] You are one of those souls, and you are persevering through, and you're going back, but you're also going forth. You in my eyes are one of the most courageous humans that will walk this earth. If you get nothing else from this episode, please recognize that you're resilient.
[00:26:49] You're not someone who gives up on what you want.
[00:26:52] Remind yourself, you may go back, but always go forth. I started to get a little emotional, so I had to pause it. I just want you to know you're going to [00:27:00] figure it out, and I'm with you. And it is just a damn honor to be with you. One final thing that I will say, and this is really cool, in sobriety you open yourself up to the new stories, and you realize that what you're really committing to is yourself.
[00:27:13] If you don't feel worthy of the commitment to yourself, please think again. Your well being and your peace of mind, that is a commitment that is worth the effort. You are worth the effort. If you appreciated this episode and haven't already left positive rating and review on Apple or Spotify, I would appreciate you so much.
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